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		<title>Who Are They Advertising To?</title>
		<link>http://blog.dubtastic.com/2009/05/24/who-are-they-advertising-to/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dub</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[General Banter]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[art rant]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Deviant Art, what are we going to do with you?
For many years now I have been a member at Deviant Art, sometimes active, and sometimes not.  An early criticism of the site was that it was a marketing engine and not a community as one might think of a community.  Who really cares, right?  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Deviant Art, what are we going to do with you?</p>
<p>For many years now I have been a member at Deviant Art, sometimes active, and sometimes not.  An early criticism of the site was that it was a marketing engine and not a community as one might think of a community.  Who really cares, right?  It is up to them to make their money and they don’t have to promote themselves as an actual community.  I am sure a site of that size and traffic would require a healthy amount of money thrown at it in order to keep it working.</p>
<p>My interaction with that site has been both positive and negative, with most of the negative stemming from their print program.  I have long been a heavy critic of that service and also seen it drastically improve.  I had a membership for about a year which has since expired, so now I have been getting a taste of what a free member experiences.  And I am nauseated.<span id="more-701"></span></p>
<p>First, the functionally is clearly limited.  I have no issues with that.  I do not expect a site as large as DA is to run for free and to offer unlimited capabilities to everyone.  I would expect that as a paying member I would get something that unpaid visitors do not.  That is just how it works.  The advertising, however, is a different ball game and also illustrates how out of touch DA actually is.</p>
<p>Here is one advertisement:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gettherespect.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-706" title="gettherespect" src="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gettherespect.jpg" alt="gettherespect" width="600" height="351" /></a></p>
<p>Are you a committed artist?  Then sign up and &#8220;get the respect an asterisk next to your username demands&#8221;.  I guess by having a free account I am announcing to the world the lack of seriousness.  I have never paid any attention to any special character in front of any name and wouldn’t really know why having an asterisk would afford more respect to the work that I upload.  For me, I would take more pride in knowing that I am supporting a site that I enjoy participating in rather than feeling like donating money makes me more of a committed artist in the eyes of others.</p>
<p>It gets better.</p>
<p>Here is another ad.  Maybe I am not the target demographic for these ads, which is why I throw up in my mouth when I see them.  I am a 30-something dad.  Reading some of the ads makes me feel as if the targeted audience is much younger.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ohnoes.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-707" title="ohnoes" src="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ohnoes.jpg" alt="ohnoes" width="600" height="281" /></a></p>
<p>Now that I see my profile page is getting &#8220;tiredzZzz!&#8221; I guess I should really jump on the ball and give DA my money.</p>
<p>As I continue about my business, uploading an image, toward the end, I see this:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/realcommentary.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-703" title="realcommentary" src="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/realcommentary.jpg" alt="realcommentary" width="600" height="342" /></a></p>
<p>I have heard too many people say that they never received quality feedback on their work at DA.  Comments such as “OMG! tHat is awesome!” and “kewl” were not just to be expected, but standard operating procedure.  If you know that and understand that about the site, then you are good to go.  But to me, to be able to request serious comments about work only as a subscriber is sad.  What does that say to non-subscribers?  More importantly, that very option drives at the heart of the level of seriousness, or lack of, with many users.  If you feel the need to market that to people, then one could make the argument that it has been lacking.  Why else would there be the need to ask for it or promote it?</p>
<p>While I am not a paid member and cannot request a “real critique” of my work, I do get to see the critiques of pieces I follow through the message center.  Here is one that caught my eye.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/critique.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-704" title="critique" src="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/critique.jpg" alt="critique" width="600" height="209" /></a></p>
<p>Gee, if only I could pay to get that type of feedback.</p>
<p>As I said, perhaps I am no longer the targeted audience for these ads.  It is just a shame that the features and advertising does not appeal to a different group to make it more tempting to subscribe.</p>
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		<title>Rant: Too Much Photoshop</title>
		<link>http://blog.dubtastic.com/2008/11/19/rant-too-much-photoshop/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dub</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[General Banter]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[art ego]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[art rant]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[digital versus traditional]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Her work is almost all Photoshop.”
Yea? And?
There is a group of people that discount creative imagery as substandard solely because there was more post-production work than in-camera setup placed into the image.  To be honest, I feel that mentality is what is substandard.  Outright ignorant, really.

The very first comment above was one that I saw [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>“Her work is almost all Photoshop.”</strong></p>
<p>Yea? And?</p>
<p>There is a group of people that discount creative imagery as substandard solely because there was more post-production work than in-camera setup placed into the image.  To be honest, I feel that mentality is what is substandard.  Outright ignorant, really.<span id="more-616"></span></p>
<p><img src="http://blog.dubtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dunce.jpg" alt="dunce.jpg" /></p>
<p>The very first comment above was one that I saw in reference to a certain user’s account on Flickr.  As you know, Flickr is a very popular photo sharing site, yet many non-photographers post their images there as a way to connect, share, inspire, learn, and be inspired.  That original comment, followed by a couple more of disdain toward the user’s account surprised me.  First, the account in question contained some extremely impressive work.  I personally saw the skill and craft that went into taking the photo and manipulating it.  Second, the person that made the comment clearly relies heavily on Photoshop for their own work, so it was a bit pot/kettle/black in my opinion.</p>
<p>But that got me thinking.  Does it matter?  There are two “people” you need to worry about when creating, be it digital manipulations, photography, or other medium of choice.  Those two are yourself and your client.</p>
<p>If you are creating the work for yourself, and enjoy post-production and heavy manipulation, does it really matter that the final result is not pure photography?  It shouldn’t it.  It is your personal work and should make you happy first and foremost.  If you enjoy ensuring that the photograph is flawless in the camera before bringing it over to your computer, does it really matter that you have to process it?  How relevant is any of that mess if you are happy with the final image?</p>
<p>Your clients are usually paying you for a certain image, and more than likely, it is an image that they feel you can produce.  I have yet to have a client tell me “Oh, I was hoping you would give me pure photography and nothing processed.”  They want the type of look that I can provide and instead of caring how I came to create that look, they instead are concerned only with ability to deliver what they are paying for, the final cost, and how quickly they can get their hands on the files.</p>
<p>I guess I am just tired of seeing people’s egos poured out online placing others beneath them because of the amount of Photoshop work, abundance of technical camera skill, or any other reason. If you like it, say so, if not, keep on moving.</p>
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